Shabrin Boris - Talking to the Devil: an interview from the Other Side стр 10.

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The Triumph of Kindness

Fose: As a demon, you represent evil, and we are here to discuss the power of good to overcome evil. How do you respond to the idea that good can overcome evil?

Lucifer: (laughs) Its a funny concept, actually. Good and evil are merely human constructs. They do not exist in the natural order of things. There is no such thing as good or evil, only power and the will to use it.

Fose: But throughout history and literature we have seen countless examples of good triumphing over evil. The hero defeats the villain, the outsider rises to the top, the oppressed overthrow their oppressors. Is this really just a figment of our imagination?

Lucifer: No, they are not. People have an innate sense of morality and justice, and they have a desire to see those values upheld. But make no mistake, these stories are just stories. They are not a reflection of reality.

Fose: So you mean to say that the power of good to overcome evil is limited?

Lucifer: Of course. Good can triumph over evil only if certain conditions are met. The first is strength. Good must be stronger than evil. The second is strategy. Good must have a plan to defeat evil. And finally, good must be willing to do whatever it takes to win.

Fose: But what about the power of love or forgiveness? Cant they defeat even the most evil deeds?

Lucifer: Love and forgiveness are just another form of power. They can be used to defeat evil, but they are not the only way. And sometimes they are not enough. There is an evil that cannot be forgiven or loved.

Fose: So what is the key to defeating evil?

Lucifer: The important thing is to understand that evil is not a force outside of us. It is part of us, just as good is part of us. To defeat evil, we must first recognize that it exists within us and then work to overcome it. We must be willing to confront our own darkness and do whatever is necessary to rise above it.

Fose: This is a very powerful message. Thank you, Lucifer, for sharing your insight with us.


In conclusion, the power of good over evil is not a simple and straightforward concept. Although we see countless examples in history and literature of the triumph of good over evil, the reality is much more complex. Good can defeat evil only if certain conditions are met, such as strength, strategy, and a willingness to do whatever is necessary to win. And even then there is evil, which cannot be defeated by love or forgiveness alone. To truly defeat evil, we must recognize that it exists in us and work to overcome it.

Chapter 5. Definition of Evil

Evil in Society

Fose: I would like to discuss the impact of evil on society. First, what do you think about the way evil is portrayed in the media?

Lucifer: Well, Fose, I believe that the media tend to portray evil in a very sensationalist and often inaccurate manner. Evil is often portrayed as glamorous or even attractive, which can be misleading. In reality, evil is dark, destructive, and often very ugly.

Fose: This is a very interesting point of view. Do you think that the portrayal of evil in the media affects how people perceive and respond to it?

Lucifer: Absolutely. The media has a tremendous influence on how people think and feel. When evil is portrayed in a sensationalistic or glamorous way, it can make people more likely to understand or even accept it. On the other hand, when evil is portrayed more accurately and realistically, it can help people see the true nature of evil and reject it.

Fose: I see. Going forward, can you talk about how evil can manifest itself in society?

Lucifer: Of course. Evil can manifest itself in many ways, but some of the most common include crime, corruption, and war. These are all ways in which individuals or groups seek power or wealth at the expense of others. They are all driven by greed, ambition, and a lack of empathy or concern for others.

Fose: And how do you think society can best deal with these manifestations of evil?

Lucifer: I believe the most important thing is to foster a sense of empathy and compassion for others. When we truly care about the well-being of others, we are less likely to engage in behavior that harms them. We are also more likely to take action to prevent harm to others. In addition, we must hold those who do evil accountable for their actions. This means not only punishing them when necessary, but also giving them the tools and resources they need to change their ways.

Fose: Thank you for your thoughts, Lucifer. It was a fascinating discussion.


The Psychology of Evil

Fose: I would like to ask you about the psychology of evil. In your experience, what are the root causes of evil behavior?

Lucifer: Evil behavior can be explained by various factors, but I believe that personality traits such as narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy play a significant role. People with these traits tend to have an exaggerated sense of self-importance, lack empathy, and disregard the well-being of others. These traits make it easier for them to commit evil behavior without remorse.

Fose: Thats interesting. Do you think these character traits are innate or can they be developed?

Lucifer: It is a combination of both. Some people may be born with these traits, while others may develop them as a result of environment and experience.

Fose: Can you give an example of how the environment and experiences can contribute to the development of these personality traits?

Lucifer: Of course. Trauma, abuse, and neglect can contribute to the development of these traits. For example, a child who grew up in an abusive family may learn that violence and aggression are acceptable ways of dealing with problems. They may also develop a sense of detachment from their emotions as a way of coping with violence. Over time, this can lead to the development of sociopathic or psychopathic traits.

Fose: That makes sense. So, do you think that people who commit evil behavior are evil by nature, or do they have the potential to change?

Lucifer: Everyone has the potential to change, but it takes a lot of introspection and effort. People who engage in evil behavior often do so because they believe it is the only way to get what they want. Only when they are able to recognize the harm they are doing to others and to themselves can they begin to change.


The Morality of Evil

Fose: I want to begin by asking you about your view of the concept of moral relativism. Do you believe that there is an objective standard for what is right and wrong, or is morality simply a matter of personal opinion?

Lucifer: Ah, the eternal question of morality. I believe that morality is subjective and determined by ones beliefs and values. What one person may consider morally right, another may consider morally wrong. Its all a matter of perspective.

Fose: Thats an interesting point of view. But what about the harm that results from evil actions? Surely there must be some objective standard for measuring this?

Lucifer: Of course our actions have consequences. But whether those consequences are good or bad depends on whom you ask. Take, for example, a dictator who causes suffering and death to millions of people. To some people he may be considered evil, but to others he may be considered a hero who stands up for his beliefs.

Fose: I understand your point, but what about punishment? Is it an effective deterrent to those who commit evil?

Lucifer: Punishment is effective only if one believes that what he did was wrong. If one sincerely believes that what he did was justified, no amount of punishment will keep him from repeating his actions. This is why I believe that punishment should be used as a way of rehabilitation, not just punishment.

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